User talk:Jeff G.
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[edit]buenas tardes disculpe sr jeft si no puedo publicar sobre este señor Avila no cobraré, Chely Franke (talk) 21:41, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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Yours sincerely, RoyZuo (talk) 15:30, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Yes, the account name on this page is the earliest one (2016 rather than 2019) and was regarded as Stale long ago, but was identified as main account just recently. Please have a brief look at the redirected page and reconsider the page move. Akishima Yuka (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Akishima Yuka: Identified in what edit? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- CU did not say, but I suppose based on the camera model and...take a look at my comment at ANM#Should_we_do_sometthing_about_Count_of_JK? Akishima Yuka (talk) 12:38, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
RG72
[edit]Good day! I received a message from you that I have repeatedly violated the project rules by uploading images protected by copyright. Indeed, I have repeatedly encountered the deletion of files I have uploaded and often this was very strange. I tried to explain my position, referring not to ridiculous formulations like "this can be found on the Internet", but to the position of leading international media outlets that use similar images and the largest law firms that work for them do not see any problems in this in the field of copyright [1]. However, the Wikimedia Commons continues to play a strange game of "copywriter purism" that is clearly devoid of legal sense. The colored background of the stage, memorial plaques (!), and even fire hydrants with smiles painted on them are now subject to deletion. I no longer upload photos of monuments, although the Russian court has long since confirmed that publishing such photos does not violate copyright, and I recalled this during one of the discussions But deleting room plans, memorial plaques, tombstones, and icons (!) is simply madness from a legal point of view. Okay, I can choose not to upload these images, but I want to point out that this is just a game that has nothing to do with the legal purity of the project. RG72 (talk) 06:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RG72: My position coincides with the one expressed here. As a matter of policy, Commons not only follows US and Russian copyright law and court precedents (and the copyright laws and court precedents of all the other countries), but also tries to protect reusers by protecting the rights of the copyright holders in source countries, whether or not the courts there choose to do so, and whether or not we are legally required to do so (we could host them legally as Fair Use, but we choose not to), so we don't allow certain works here if using them in Russia or other countries could have negative repercussions for our reusers. I imagine you don't want to get tossed into a Siberian gulag by the KGB for reusing a photo that includes some building or statue in Russia or some territory claimed by Russia (whether or not your lawyers eventually win your court case posthumously). See COM:RUSSIA for details on what we do allow. We also have some extra tagging for certain sensitive matter that certain language projects like the ones that use the German language don't want used on their projects; the Russian language projects could request similar treatment. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 07:25, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Now I just don't understand anything. The KGB was liquidated in 1991, the GULAG in 1959, and I have lived since birth in the Siberian city of Tyumen, which is much more comfortable and safe than many European cities, so I could fear illegal imprisonment in one of the American prisons (for example, in Guantanamo), prosecution for political or religious views (as in the countries of Eastern Europe) or terrorism, which has already claimed hundreds of Ukrainian journalists and oppositionists. But what does all this have to do with memorial plaques, tombstones and icons? How can the publication of an image of an Orthodox icon - a canonical image approved by the church as the norm - send someone to a mythical GULAG or a real American or European prison? RG72 (talk) 07:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RG72: Ok, that was a hypothetical. But according to movies and TV I have seen in America, people have been oppressed by the KGB and disappeared or sent to die in GULAGs or Siberian prisons in the past (I understand Siberia can be very cold relative to other places in Russia). If you can get FOP for artwork including statues accepted into Russian law retroactively, that would be great! Until then, we can't accept de facto Russian FOP for artwork including statues here on Commons. I would like FOP for statues in the US, too, but the Big Copyright lobby in Washington is still too strong for that (but thankfully not strong enough to protect Steamboat Willie for Disney), so people in the US still get arrested or sued for copyright infringement of statues in the US (see Category:Korean War Veterans Memorial for reference to recent cases involving the statues at the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington). I stand with the people of all countries against authoritarian bullies like Trump, Putin, Assad, Hitler, Khomeini, and Bin Laden. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 08:13, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Siberia for four centuries was a penal servitude and exile, I myself adhered to this theme as a historian, my ancestor at the beginning of the line came to Siberia in shackles, my father was born in exile. All this was, but it remained in the past and today Siberia is one of the most comfortable places in Russia. In my city, the apple trees and tulips have already bloomed, yesterday I saw that roses were already planted in the flower beds. In summer, the temperature rarely drops below 20-25 degrees Celsius and people walk the streets until the morning, fortunately, the crime rate in Tyumen is 7 times lower than in Moscow - one of the safest cities in the world. I was engaged in publishing books and advertising, and I know that copyright protection issues are really important, although in my opinion sometimes it turns into abuse. I just want to draw attention to the fact that in our project, "copywriter purism" has already crossed all boundaries and we ourselves are depriving the project of valuable data in order to protect something that clearly does not need protection - such as icons, tombstones, memorial plaques or chevrons of private military companies. The largest international companies use these images, and we are afraid to do so. Why? RG72 (talk) 08:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RG72: COM:VP is a good place to ask that. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 09:05, 23 May 2025 (UTC)